RR Kampen says:
July 21, 2010 at 6:13 am

wayne Job says:
July 21, 2010 at 4:24 am

…So how come Niña-year AND sunspot minimum year 2007 still made it to the top 10% of warmest years AND that melt in the Arctic Sea, please? Wouldn’t we have expected 2007 to arrive in the 10% coldest?

No better proof for GW than 2007!
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Your viewpoint is way too narrow It takes a heck of a lot longer to turn an ocean liner than it does a sport car. You expect something with a heat capacity as large as the earth’s to change on a dime? If climate was that sensitive we would be flipping in an out of Ice Ages every time we turned around.

NASA solar scientist, Dr. Hathaway stated the last five solar cycles had been amongst the strongest in recorded history, that is over 50 years of strong solar cycles.

The influence on air temperatures by Multidecadal Ocean Oscillations is finally acknowledged in a 2008 study: “Oceanic Influences on Recent Continental Warming”, by Compo, G.P., and P.D. Sardeshmukh, (Climate Diagnostics Center, Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, University of Colorado, and Physical Sciences Division, Earth System Research Laboratory, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), Climate Dynamics, 2008) click

“Evidence is presented that the recent worldwide land warming has occurred largely in response to a worldwide warming of the oceans rather than as a direct response to increasing greenhouse gases (GHGs) over land. Atmospheric model simulations of the last half-century with prescribed observed ocean temperature changes, but without prescribed GHG changes, account for most of the land warming. … Several recent studies suggest that the observed SST variability may be misrepresented in the coupled models used in preparing the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report, with substantial errors on interannual and decadal scales. There is a hint of an underestimation of simulated decadal SST variability even in the published IPCC Report.”

Or as some here have repeatedly said the oceans act as a giant heat capacitor. You have fifty years of active sun dumping energy into the oceans, it is going to take time for it to dissipate. (Think hot water bottle) and while you are think about this statement from a peer reviewed paper:

Temperature and precipitation history of the Arctic Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research and Department of Geological Sciences, University of Colorado states: “Solar energy reached a summer maximum (9% higher than at present) not, vert, similar11 ka ago and has been decreasing since then, primarily in response to the precession of the equinoxes.”

and this peer reviewed paper were the title says it all: Lesson from the past: present insolation minimum holds potential for glacial inception

Do you REALLY want the present warming to go away? Be careful what you wish for you might not like the result.

Jah dots “Minnesnowta”. Ut reminds me of Paul Bunyan’s winter of the blue snow, when it was so cold the snow turned blue and the Pacific Ocean froze over. Paul had to walk all the way over to China to find some ordinary white snow as Christmas presents for his loggers.

Following are some better documented correlations on cosmic rays influencing climate (as comments to SAP 2.3 draft):

Cosmic ray nucleation with solar modulation
Svensmark and FriisChristensen (1996) discovered that incident cosmic rays modulate global low level cloud cover. In earth like atmospheres, Svensmark et a. (2006) find new aerosol particle production is proportional to negative ion density. Cloud cover further varies about 2% over the 11 year solar cycle. Svensmark (2007) formulated a theory of cosmoclimatology where ion nucleation of aerosols form cloud condensation nuclei. This varies with cosmic ray variations which are inversely modulated by the total solar irradiance and solar wind. Rusov et al. (2008a) , (2008b) further develop a bifurcation model of galactic cosmic ray cloud formation and provide experimental support. Following Svensmark’s preliminary experimental confirmation, CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, is creating the CLOUD atmospheric research facility to quantify cosmic ray atmospheric aerosol nucleation. Marsh (2003) showed correlations between the El Niño–Southern Oscillation and galactic cosmic rays. Usoskin et al. (2004) show latitudinal influence on cosmic ionization clouds. Harrison and Stehenson (2006) find that with sudden transient reductions in cosmic rays (Forbush events) there corresponding simultaneous decreases in diffuse insolation, and thus with clouds. They note that high cosmic ray fluctuations correlate with 2% higher diffuse insolation and a 19% increase in overcast days.

References for Cosmoclimatology:
Svensmark, Henrik, Cosmoclimatology: a new theory emerges. A & G, February 2007, Vol. 48 #1, 18-24
Svensmark, Henrik, Jens Olaf P. Pedersen, Nigel D. Marsh, Martin B. Enghoff, & Ulrik I Uggerhǿj, Experimental evidence for the role of ions in particle nucleation under atmospheric conditions, Proc. Royal Soc. A. 2006, 1773.
Rusov, V; A. Glushkov, V. Vaschenko, O. Mihalys, S. Kosenko, S. Mavrodiev, B. Vachev, Galactic Cosmic Rays – Clouds Effect and Bifurcation Model of the Earth Global Climate. Part 1. Theory, Atmospheric and Oceanic Physics, (2008) In Press
Rusov, V; A. Glushkov, V. Vaschenko, О. Mihalys, S. Kosenko, S. Mavrodiev, B. Vachev, Galactic Cosmic Rays – Clouds Effect and Bifurcation Model of the Earth Global Climate. Part 2. Comparison of Theory with Experiment. Atmospheric and Oceanic Physics, (2008) In Press
I. G. Usoskin & N. Marsh, G. A. Kovaltsov, K. Mursula, O. G. Gladysheva, Latitudinal dependence of low cloud amount on cosmic ray induced ionization, Geophysical Research Letters Vol. 31, L16109, doi:10.1029/2004GL019507, 2004
Harrison. R. Giles; & David B. Stephenson, Empirical evidence for a nonlinear effect of galactic cosmic rays on clouds. Prod. Roy. Soc. A. V462, Nr 2068, Apr. 8, 2006, 1221-1233.
Marsh, Nigel, Galactic cosmic ray and El Niño–Southern Oscillation trends in International Satellite Cloud Climatology Project D2 low-cloud properties, J. Geophysical Research, V. 108, No. D6, 4195, doi:10.1029/2001JD001264, 2003

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